Sunday, January 28, 2007

My name isn't Frances or: Bonanza Jellybean, Cont'd.

Sometimes I think that being nice is a liabilty.

I posted a comment on Bonanza Jellybean, a blog I found through while surfing one the links of one of my links. In my comment, I stated that I understood that I didn't know her all that well, and that I was being "incredibly presumptive" in my comment.

The main point of my comment was:
  1. She should maybe not take corrective action based on psuedo-medical advice from a 3rd grade teacher. Asking a doctor might be a good idea.
  2. Beware of telling children things that make them body conscious. Especially girls.
  3. I am aware that I've only read one post on her blog, so sorry if I was being incredibly presumptive.
In my post here ABOUT the comment, I specifically said: "Hope I didn't overreact."

Then, Shqipo asked me if my name was Frances.

He asked me this because the attribution lines on Bonanza Jellybean make it look kind of like the comments belong to the wrong person. So he was associating the wrong comment with my name.

When I went back to see what he was talking about, I saw that I had driven some folks into a mad, defensive posture. No one more than the blog's owner, but a lot of the commenters were pretty pissed off, too.

Most of the people who criticized me used the "He must think he's SO perfect, judging you on one post. He must think he's the perfect parent." Hell, the blog's owner called me a fucktard. Which, actually, is awesome. But not as good as "Pretard." Which is way better. But that's beside the point.

Anyone who accuses me of thinking I'm perfect clearly hasn't read my blog. Or even my "about me" thingy on the top of every page. I'm a fucking ALCOHOLIC. I spent a great deal of my life completely drunk off my ass. Regardless of the innumerable other character defects I have, and there are MANY, this alone precludes me calling myself "perfect."

So fuck that noise.

Anyway: my other point, is the idea that I'm "judging someone on one post." We ALL judge people based on imcomplete information. Hell, I'd love have Ms. Britt, Fiona, Shqipo, Gina, Vinny, Lisa, Eric, Amy, Christelle, TC, et al, for a huge-ass roundtable once-a-week dinner, but we live in different parts of the WORLD. It's not possible.

You think you really know your coworkers? How many people are utterly certain about every situation about which they posit an opinion. Clearly, we're all making educated guesses. If not, everyone would pretty much think the same thing about everything. At that's not the case.

What I try to do, and what was completely ignored in this case, is make sure people know I'm aware that my comments are based on my limited knowledge. I literally SAID this in the comment: "I'm sorry if this is incredibly presumptive."

But you know what? It's the fucking BLOG world. Why do people put shit out there that they don't want people to read and comment on? Blogs can be "members only." It's easy. Or, you can moderate comments to filter out opinions you don't want... leaving only the comments that say "Man, you're awesome!" or "Right on!" Or whatever floats your boat. Or, at the very least, post a header that says:
Do not comment on this blog unless you have read the whole thing and thoroughly understand the psychology of the owner.
Me? I think the people who disagree with me make this blogging thing just as interesting as the folks who I tend to agree with. Disagreement makes me clarify my own position.

Hell. It sometimes makes me CHANGE my position.

Love to all. Even you, Painting Chef.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Man, you're awesome. Right on!

Seriously, though, I read your comment after reading your post too, and I agreed with you. Too many times parents forget that THEY (Not the teachers or even the "experts") know their child best.

I too enjoy a good debate. Shows me that someone's interested enough in what I think to put forth the effort to argue with me.

Twisted, huh?

Anonymous said...

Personally I love comments, honest ones, good ones, or bad ones. It's what blogging is all about right? Writing, putting your stuff out for the world to read and getting their comments on it! :)

And NYC is on my "to-visit list". So when I go you may be able to judge me in person over a hotchoco/coffee/whatever! ;) :P

Vinny said...

Wow. Does anyone have an internet-sized chill pill?

Ginamonster said...

Gasp! I got invited to the round table!! Whee!

I totaly agree though. We only see what people want us to see. Case in point? my coworker has been married for a year. I found out Friday. Blogs are intensely personal. We share ourselves here more, I think, than anywhere else. And those of us that read them feel like we know each other and feel comfortable being honest. It hurt me to see you called a fucktard because I felt you were offering a sincere opinion.

raising children has got to be the most difficult thing a person can every do.

rock on

Lisa said...

Rich, Rich, Rich... you seem to be forgetting that some people blog not for the creative outlet, or the opportunity to exchange ideas or even to vent but so that others can say "there, there, it'll be ok." :)

And you dared to share a different point of view so shame on you.
The rest of us will stick around here and read your blog instead. OK?

Oh, and when you figure out how to get that roundtable thing going... count me in.

Fiona Kathleen Hogan said...

:o
Sorry to hear they took off on a tangent so voilently. I read the post, saw your comment, thought it was fair all around.

Alas, there is a reason I am extremely particular about the people I link up with or whose blogs I comment on.

On a separate note. Roundatble dinner? Moi? Oh hey, flattered beyond all else! lol.

Peter said...

Stirring the pot makes the stew. Getting under the skin, touching a nerve, making the hair on the back of the neck stand at attention is what I like about it.
Lord knows I have put my foot in my mouth a few times, sometimes on purpose. Great post Rich.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about a round table, but if you ever get a chance to run a race in Pittsburgh, let me know and we'll grab a beer afterward. :)

As for your post, I think you've hit the nail on the head. I'm a big fan of comments from diverse points of view, as long as the author at least tried to be civil and thoughtful (though they might have failed miserably).

Anonymous said...

It just occurred to me that I shouldn't have suggested grabbing a beer to an alcoholic. Open mouth, insert foot. ;)

Rich | Championable said...

funky: I took the invite in the spirit in which it was meant.

:-)

Anonymous said...

Man, a round table would be awesome. Commenting on others' blogs is a little dangerous, regardless of subject matter. Personally, I thought what you wrote made sense but I've been known to flip out over less...

Great post regardless.